Mindfulness is hot and happening. Large companies like Google screen it, ministries set up quiet rooms, courses are running rampant. Is this only to be welcomed or is this also a cause for concern? Both, think Joost van den Heuvel Rijnders and Eveline Brandt. At the kitchen table they discuss the advantages of the 'hype', which so many people come into contact with meditation, but also the disadvantages and pitfalls. Because does that employer really want his employees to live a more attentive and calmer life, or is that in-company mindfulness training secretly about increasing productivity?